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Re: Vassal under Apple Catalina

Postby tar » October 24th, 2019, 9:39 pm

And from https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing ... -problems/
How to fix MacOS Catalina file access problems

As part of Catalina’s security overhaul, Apple had changed how apps are
able to access your files. Like on an iPhone, when you open a newly
downloaded app, Catalina may launch a popup asking you to grant permission
to that app to access specific files or folders. If you denied access and
change your mind, you can do so by opening up your Mac’s System Preferences
app in the dock.

Next, you’ll choose *Security and Privacy*, and you’ll want to click on *Files
and Folders* in the left pane. On the right pane, you’ll find a list of
apps along with their file access privileges, and you can click on the
individual apps to make your changes.

After you’re done granting or revoking file access privileges, be sure to
restart the app for the changes to take effect.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:38 PM Tom Russ wrote:

> Not sure if it is relevant, but from Apple's website, here are some of the
> new Catalina "features": https://www.apple.com/macos/catalina/features/
>
> Enhanced GatekeeperGatekeeper will ensure that all new apps you install —
> from the App Store or the internet — have been checked for known security
> issues by Apple before you run them the first time and periodically
> thereafter. This extends the protection from the app’s source to include
> automated checks for what’s in the app.
>
> Data protectionsmacOS Catalina checks with you before allowing an app to
> access your data in your Documents, Desktop, and Downloads folders; iCloud
> Drive; the folders of third-party cloud storage providers; removable media;
> and external volumes. In addition, you’re asked before an app can perform
> key logging or capture a still or video recording of your screen.
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:06 PM Malnorma wrote:
>
>>
>> "GGdeTOURS" wrote:
>> > Last info: It seems to depend on TIME very much.
>> >
>> > If I shut down and re-open my computer many times during the first
>> > hours: The modules are still here. But After let say 8 hours or more:
>> > If I shut down and re-open my computer: The modules (and extensions)
>> > have disappeared again.
>> > Sooo strange ...
>>
>>
>> Yes, it's like the OS is granting a temporary exception that expires,
>> often after a reboot. I set up a test yesterday with three vmods under
>> /Users/Shared, one in my Downloads folder, and one in my Documents
>> folder. This morning, the Shared vmods are still listed, but the other
>> two have been dropped.
>>
>> Have you tried moving your modules to /Users/Shared?
>>
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Re: Vassal under Apple Catalina

Postby Malnorma » October 24th, 2019, 10:41 pm

tar wrote:Next, you’ll choose *Security and Privacy*, and you’ll want to click on *Files
and Folders* in the left pane. On the right pane, you’ll find a list of
apps along with their file access privileges, and you can click on the
individual apps to make your changes.


I'm sure that it's somehow related to these new protections, but both java and Vassal already appear in that list. It delisted the module located in my Downloads folder, logging a file I/O error, but allowed me to open it again without prompting because that permission was already granted.
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Re: Vassal under Apple Catalina

Postby GGdeTOURS » October 25th, 2019, 1:05 am

Malnorma wrote:
GGdeTOURS wrote:Last info: It seems to depend on TIME very much.

If I shut down and re-open my computer many times during the first hours: The modules are still here. But After let say 8 hours or more: If I shut down and re-open my computer: The modules (and extensions) have disappeared again.
Sooo strange ...


Yes, it's like the OS is granting a temporary exception that expires, often after a reboot. I set up a test yesterday with three vmods under /Users/Shared, one in my Downloads folder, and one in my Documents folder. This morning, the Shared vmods are still listed, but the other two have been dropped.

Have you tried moving your modules to /Users/Shared?


Trying it tonight > We'll see tomorrow ;)
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Re: Vassal under Apple Catalina

Postby GGdeTOURS » October 25th, 2019, 3:32 pm

It seems to work! Great!

Let's cross fingers and wait and see if it works over time.
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Re: Vassal under Apple Catalina

Postby Gabbsie » November 1st, 2019, 9:58 am

Hola

Can't say this is a fix - because like all of us I don't know enough, but I regrouped all my .vmod files into a folder - which i called Vassal Modules - and dragged that into my applications - I am only running two modules at the moment, but they have stayed in the module list since I did this!

Hope its works for others.

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Re: Vassal under Apple Catalina

Postby GGdeTOURS » November 5th, 2019, 8:48 pm

Malnorma wrote:Another thought occurred to me - you could try storing all your modules under /Users/Shared instead of your home folder. I believe that location will be less strictly protected, but I do not have time to test it right now.


THIS definitively worked!

TY SO MUCH Malnorma!
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