I am trying to use the WS&IM module.
The “return to deck” trait of the cards isn’t working for me. (some go to the wrong deck)
I already asked here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7553
How would I go about repairing this function?
I tried:
reselecting the deck where the card should go.
(I added names to the decks, they had no name in the module)
no change.
removing the “return to deck” trait from the cards and re-assign it.
no change. Especially “return to deck” is still working the wrong way
even if I remove the trait (How can this happen ???)
changing the menu entry name to see the different menu entries for the different cards.
no change, the menu entry name does not change (How can this happen ???)
I am quite new to VASSAL, any help ?
Thanks, Matthias.
So I tried to rebuild the functionality in a new module from scratch
(trying to use near the same structures)
and everything’s working as expected.
So it looks to me like something gets irreparably broken
when importing this old module in vassal 3.2.13.
Is this important enough to report it as a bug?
Just for info: Anyone knows how old this module is? And if anyone used it recently?
So I tried to rebuild the functionality in a new module from scratch
(trying to use near the same structures)
and everything’s working as expected.
So it looks to me like something gets irreparably broken
when importing this old module in vassal 3.2.13.
Is this important enough to report it as a bug?
Just for info: Anyone knows how old this module is? And if anyone used
it recently?
Return to Deck works in 3.2.13, so far as I know. What have you tried?
I downloaded the module from the WSIM module page and opened it in vassal 3.2.11 (later 3.2.13).
I open it and choose solo to have access to all four player windows
each with two decks of one card.
When I drag these cards to the main map and use “return to deck”
some go to the wrong deck (consistently btw.)
I then tried to repair the module in the editor but nothing really worked,
there were even some odd things happening. See first post for details.
And yes, “return to deck” works in 3.2.13. I tried rebuilding the module from scratch
and everything works as advertised.
No, only looks like it.
Only the 1.0 (WSIM.zip) archive is a module.
The archive labelled 1.2 (WSMv12.zip) is a set of rules (for tournaments
afaik).
Ok. I checked the 1.0 module. The buildFile indicates it was created
with VASSAL 1.3.1.1, which was released on 8 January 2004. That
significantly predates the oldest version we have in our release
archive (2.0.5).
So, I’m not at all surprised that this module doesn’t work with 3.2.
It probably didn’t work with 3.1 or 3.0 either. It needs to be rebuilt.
Thanks, that explains some of the odd things that happened.
It would be nice though if vassal could report the incompatibility.
Shall I put a note on the module page or do you want to do it ?
Thanks, that explains some of the odd things that happened.
It would be nice though if vassal could report the incompatibility.
I don’t know how we’d go about systematically detecting the
incompatibility. We don’t know which change or chagnes caused it, so
the only way to do it would be manually.
Shall I put a note on the module page or do you want to do it ?
Go for it.
If you’re rebuilding the module yourself, please consider uploading your
new version. The old one isn’t of much use to anyone the way it is.
Shall I put a note on the module page or do you want to do it ?
Go for it.
Done.
If you’re rebuilding the module yourself, please consider uploading your
new version. The old one isn’t of much use to anyone the way it is.
First contact with vassal has not really been productive…don’t really know.
FYI, there was another user working recently on a WSIM module (rhett).
He did not came back since his posts, I tried to contact him.
Thanks again for explaining the odd behaviour, Matthias.
Matthias,
I was able to open the original 1.0 mod in edit mode using 3.2.13. Edited the Spanish and American decks so the “cards” returned to the proper deck. Saved it, and it worked fine. Have not edited a VASSAL mod in ages, so didn’t try to mess with anything else. Have not tried online, but everything appears to be working as intended…as much as I remember since I made this YEARS ago!
WS&IM has no “cards”. Of course.
But the ship logs and movement planning are implemented
using vassal cards+decks because those have a suitable functionality.
Secret move plans for example are done on the hidden side of a card
which is flipped to reveal the move.