Can't remove at-start stack pieces

My computer

Dell XPS
Intel (R) Core™ i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
RAM 32 GB
64 bit Operating system X64 based processor

  • Model: Dell XPS
  • Operating System Window 10
  • CPU: Intel (R) Core™ i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
  • Memory: Ram 32GB
  • Video Card Not sure…but higher end
  • Vassal version. 3.2.15
  • Java version. Version 8 Update 65
  • Vassal module name and version: SOJ_2.1.vmod posted 11/11/15 to The Siege of Jerusalem module page
  • Exactly what steps are required to reproduce your problem.
    Problem: I cannot remove or edit an at-start stack gamepiece on the interphase board map window. If I remove the at-start stack gamepiece. It returns. If I replace the image, it retains the old image. If I delete the piece and remove the image from the zip files, then rebuild the module, it produces a bad data error as if it is still looking for it.
    In addition I tried removing the entire map window. This created the same problem. Vassal would not remove it. It was no longer available as a menu item, however a bad data error appears indicating that the module still believed it was supposed to be there.
    To see which gamepiece I am referring to:
  1. Open the module. Select the Interphase Board (The red and blue icon located between the +Turn button and the Blue button that looks like a blue unit piece.)
  2. The large white rectangle that starts with “Step 1: Action Automatic…” is the problem.
    It is a game piece with layers that loop through the layer images to correspond with each interphase step listed to the left of the board.
    The Turn controller sends a turn-based global key command which advances the layers. (The automation is not the problem. It works perfectly except I need to change the instructions.)

To find the at-start stack gamepiece in edit mode and reproduce the problem:

  1. Edit the module
  2. About halfway down the module you will see Interphase board map window
    About halfway down the Interphase Board menu is the at start stack gamepiece named “Step Instructions”
  3. (Note as I indicated above, I think the problem is the entire map board but the at start stack is where I discovered the problem) Try anything that you like to change the gamepiece. Move to another location, deleting, replacing with a different image, removing/editing the traits.It always reverts back to where it is stuck.

I would just start rebuilding from scratch but I used an irregular hex grid which took me about 6 month to complete because I had to individually name each hex and it is a large map.

Anything you can do to help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Before I check - Do you have Saved games/ scenario files in the module which
you are loading? If so, that’s your problem; deleting things or changing
things in a module has no bearing on the actual saved game/ scenario files
that you load on start up - you have to recreate those again to inherit your
mod changes otherwise you will still see the old images behaviors etc…,
that you thought you removed.

This is all explained in the designers manual

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My computer

Dell XPS
Intel (R) Core™ i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
RAM 32 GB
64 bit Operating system X64 based processor

  • Model: Dell XPS
  • Operating System Window 10
  • CPU: Intel (R) Core™ i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
  • Memory: Ram 32GB
  • Video Card Not sure…but higher end
  • Vassal version. 3.2.15
  • Java version. Version 8 Update 65
  • Vassal module name and version: SOJ_2.1.vmod posted 11/11/15 to The
    Siege of Jerusalem module page
  • Exactly what steps are required to reproduce your problem.
    Problem: I cannot remove or edit an at-start stack gamepiece on the
    interphase board map window. If I remove the at-start stack gamepiece.
    It returns. If I replace the image, it retains the old image. If I
    delete the piece and remove the image from the zip files, then rebuild
    the module, it produces a bad data error as if it is still looking for
    it.
    In addition I tried removing the entire map window. This created the
    same problem. Vassal would not remove it. It was no longer available as
    a menu item, however a bad data error appears indicating that the module
    still believed it was supposed to be there.
    To see which gamepiece I am referring to:
  1. Open the module. Select the Interphase Board (The red and blue icon
    located between the +Turn button and the Blue button that looks like a
    blue unit piece.)
  2. The large white rectangle that starts with “Step 1: Action
    Automatic…” is the problem.
    It is a game piece with layers that loop through the layer images to
    correspond with each interphase step listed to the left of the board.
    The Turn controller sends a turn-based global key command which advances
    the layers. (The automation is not the problem. It works perfectly
    except I need to change the instructions.)

To find the at-start stack gamepiece in edit mode and reproduce the
problem:

  1. Edit the module
  2. About halfway down the module you will see Interphase board map
    window
    About halfway down the Interphase Board menu is the at start stack
    gamepiece named “Step Instructions”
  3. (Note as I indicated above, I think the problem is the entire map
    board but the at start stack is where I discovered the problem) Try
    anything that you like to change the gamepiece. Move to another
    location, deleting, replacing with a different image, removing/editing
    the traits.It always reverts back to where it is stuck.

I would just start rebuilding from scratch but I used an irregular hex
grid which took me about 6 month to complete because I had to
individually name each hex and it is a large map.

Anything you can do to help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Read this topic online here:
https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/cant-remove-at-start-stack-pieces/8029/1

I believe that is the answer. I didn’t put two and two together. I forgot that Vassal will see my informational gamepieces the same as my units and markers.

Thank goodness it was something simple. Removing and re-adding the setup files will be a lot easier tan rebuilding the module.

As always,

Thanks.