This is no different to simply using the right-click > open command. It allows the app to run, but does not remove the quarantine attribute, and will still run afoul of this issue on Catalina.
The app needs to be signed and notarised using an Apple developer account. I don’t remember if this requires the $99 fee.
Arg: Can’t find the “Terminal.app” in spotlight?
That’s odd! It should be under /Applications/Utilities if you want to find it manually.
Is that here?
Yes, that’s it.
So I must hit “sudo xattr -d -r com.apple.quarantine /Applications/VASSAL.app” on the white screen after “GG$”?
(it sound like chinese for me loool)
You’ve got it. It does look a bit complicated, but all you’re doing is running a program with some extra information about what you want it to do:
xattr - a program to manage extended attributes
-d - delete an attribute
-r - do the delete on all files and folders within the target folder
com.apple.quarantine - the name of the attribute to delete
/Applications/VASSAL.app - the target folder for the command
If this was meant to be a long-term solution, I’d suggest adding it to the main Vassal script, but I’m hoping a better solution will be found.
With so many thanks Malnorma.
I hope you will excuse me but I finally decided not to enter those lines on this computer of mine that is also my main working tool as a photographer. I will play a little less on Vassal (because of the repetitive manipulations) and wait for a fixing of Vassal for the (poor) people owning a Mac.
With best regards - GG
By the way I’m Guillaume Gleize - City of Tours - France
Command & Colors Napoleonic player on Vassal & Live
You do not need to use the Terminal.
When you double-click VASSAL (or any other un-signed app that you trust), you will see:
[attachment=2]Screen Shot 2019-10-23 at 8.38.08 AM.png[/attachment]
Just click Cancel. Then goto the Apple menu… System Preferences… Security & Privacy. You will see:
[attachment=1]Screen Shot 2019-10-23 at 8.38.16 AM.png[/attachment]
Click Open Anyway if you trust it and you will see:
[attachment=0]Screen Shot 2019-10-23 at 8.38.23 AM.png[/attachment]
Click Open and you’re good-to-go.
Again, this is a process you will have to use when opening apps from smaller development houses.
That appears to be Option+Open on the Right-Click menu.
Tell me more about how I can see what will run afoul. So far Option-Open just seems to be a shortcut to the process and allows VASSAL to run just fine.
No problem. Another thought occurred to me - you could try storing all your modules under /Users/Shared instead of your home folder. I believe that location will be less strictly protected, but I do not have time to test it right now.
Please read the thread. Launching Vassal is not the issue.
Last info: It seems to depend on TIME very much.
If I shut down and re-open my computer many times during the first hours: The modules are still here. But After let say 8 hours or more: If I shut down and re-open my computer: The modules (and extensions) have disappeared again.
Sooo strange …
Yes, it’s like the OS is granting a temporary exception that expires, often after a reboot. I set up a test yesterday with three vmods under /Users/Shared, one in my Downloads folder, and one in my Documents folder. This morning, the Shared vmods are still listed, but the other two have been dropped.
Have you tried moving your modules to /Users/Shared?
Not sure if it is relevant, but from Apple’s website, here are some of the
new Catalina “features”: apple.com/macos/catalina/features/
Enhanced GatekeeperGatekeeper will ensure that all new apps you install —
from the App Store or the internet — have been checked for known security
issues by Apple before you run them the first time and periodically
thereafter. This extends the protection from the app’s source to include
automated checks for what’s in the app.
Data protectionsmacOS Catalina checks with you before allowing an app to
access your data in your Documents, Desktop, and Downloads folders; iCloud
Drive; the folders of third-party cloud storage providers; removable media;
and external volumes. In addition, you’re asked before an app can perform
key logging or capture a still or video recording of your screen.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:06 PM Malnorma malnormacxio@gmail.com wrote:
“GGdeTOURS” wrote:
Last info: It seems to depend on TIME very much.
If I shut down and re-open my computer many times during the first
hours: The modules are still here. But After let say 8 hours or more:
If I shut down and re-open my computer: The modules (and extensions)
have disappeared again.
Sooo strange …Yes, it’s like the OS is granting a temporary exception that expires,
often after a reboot. I set up a test yesterday with three vmods under
/Users/Shared, one in my Downloads folder, and one in my Documents
folder. This morning, the Shared vmods are still listed, but the other
two have been dropped.Have you tried moving your modules to /Users/Shared?
Read this topic online here:
Vassal under Apple Catalina - #29 by Malnorma
messages mailing list
messages@vassalengine.org
vassalengine.org/mailman/listinfo/messages
And from digitaltrends.com/computing … -problems/
How to fix MacOS Catalina file access problems
As part of Catalina’s security overhaul, Apple had changed how apps are
able to access your files. Like on an iPhone, when you open a newly
downloaded app, Catalina may launch a popup asking you to grant permission
to that app to access specific files or folders. If you denied access and
change your mind, you can do so by opening up your Mac’s System Preferences
app in the dock.
Next, you’ll choose Security and Privacy, and you’ll want to click on Files
and Folders in the left pane. On the right pane, you’ll find a list of
apps along with their file access privileges, and you can click on the
individual apps to make your changes.
After you’re done granting or revoking file access privileges, be sure to
restart the app for the changes to take effect.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:38 PM Tom Russ taruss2000@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure if it is relevant, but from Apple’s website, here are some of the
new Catalina “features”: apple.com/macos/catalina/features/Enhanced GatekeeperGatekeeper will ensure that all new apps you install —
from the App Store or the internet — have been checked for known security
issues by Apple before you run them the first time and periodically
thereafter. This extends the protection from the app’s source to include
automated checks for what’s in the app.Data protectionsmacOS Catalina checks with you before allowing an app to
access your data in your Documents, Desktop, and Downloads folders; iCloud
Drive; the folders of third-party cloud storage providers; removable media;
and external volumes. In addition, you’re asked before an app can perform
key logging or capture a still or video recording of your screen.On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:06 PM Malnorma malnormacxio@gmail.com wrote:
“GGdeTOURS” wrote:
Last info: It seems to depend on TIME very much.
If I shut down and re-open my computer many times during the first
hours: The modules are still here. But After let say 8 hours or more:
If I shut down and re-open my computer: The modules (and extensions)
have disappeared again.
Sooo strange …Yes, it’s like the OS is granting a temporary exception that expires,
often after a reboot. I set up a test yesterday with three vmods under
/Users/Shared, one in my Downloads folder, and one in my Documents
folder. This morning, the Shared vmods are still listed, but the other
two have been dropped.Have you tried moving your modules to /Users/Shared?
Read this topic online here:
Vassal under Apple Catalina - #29 by Malnorma
messages mailing list
messages@vassalengine.org
vassalengine.org/mailman/listinfo/messages
I’m sure that it’s somehow related to these new protections, but both java and Vassal already appear in that list. It delisted the module located in my Downloads folder, logging a file I/O error, but allowed me to open it again without prompting because that permission was already granted.
Trying it tonight > We’ll see tomorrow
It seems to work! Great!
Let’s cross fingers and wait and see if it works over time.
Hola
Can’t say this is a fix - because like all of us I don’t know enough, but I regrouped all my .vmod files into a folder - which i called Vassal Modules - and dragged that into my applications - I am only running two modules at the moment, but they have stayed in the module list since I did this!
Hope its works for others.
Gary
THIS definitively worked!
TY SO MUCH Malnorma!